Sunday parking, free -- for some

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If you drive your car Sunday morning to a restaurant for breakfast, or if you go to a Yoga class, or if you're going to work or shopping, you have to plug the meters now, or you'll get a pricey ticket. Almost 1,800 people got caught up in the new crackdown on Sunday parking.

Which is fine with me; I think people who drive should pay to park, and as long as you can stay a couple of hours, most of the meters in the city are a bargain.

But for some people, there are no Sunday meters, and no tickets. Those are the ones who don't bother with the meters and just park in the middle of the street while they're going to church.

I've been complaining about this for a long time, and nothing seems to change:

If you go to see the (secular) Mime Troupe in Dolores Park and you stick your car in the middle of the street, you get a ticket. If you drink at a (secular) bar or eat at a (secular) restaurant and you leave your car in the Valencia Street median, you get cited. You can't double park while you run in for a (secular) cup of coffee at Muddy Waters.

And now everyone engaging in secular activities has to pay to park, and the people who go to church get to park in the middle of the street, illegally, free of charge, and with full impunity.

I called Paul Rose, the MTA spokesperson, and asked if this harsh crackdown on Sunday meters would also include a crackdown on people who park illegally in the middle of Valencia Street, but he hasn't gotten back to me. I'll let you know if he does.

Comments

while of course going easy on the kinds of loers, lowlifes, criminals and thugs that you always feel sympathy for.

Posted by anon on Jan. 31, 2013 @ 4:10 pm

People who worship are not "good."

Posted by marcos on Jan. 31, 2013 @ 5:39 pm

...but they are better than Marcos.

Posted by Demented, Yet Terribly, Terribly Persistent on Jan. 31, 2013 @ 5:54 pm

you are of course correct

Posted by Guest on Jan. 31, 2013 @ 6:05 pm

The party line is that the SFPD and SFMTA will accommodate group events, both religious and non.

Posted by Jim on Jan. 31, 2013 @ 4:59 pm

afternoon, while most church services are in the morning when, in any event, there is little traffic in SF, and so one lane on (say) Dolores easily meets the traffic load.

Posted by Guest on Jan. 31, 2013 @ 5:10 pm

They park on Guerrero all day, when walking by in the early afternoon you will notice the signs directing the believers to park on Guerrero, there will also be church folk up there helping out with the parking.

Posted by matlock on Jan. 31, 2013 @ 5:59 pm

A few churchgoers are given a break while they worship.

Ask me if I care.

Posted by Guest on Jan. 31, 2013 @ 6:09 pm

It doesn't go on just in the AM though.

Hate to side with Time here but if these people get this huge of a pass, then so should a lot of other people. It seems to be even built into their pro-Jesus business model.

Posted by matlock on Jan. 31, 2013 @ 6:29 pm

You know that if it was a regular Sunday meeting of Occupy, Tim would never, ever, complain about the parking.

Posted by Demented, Yet Terribly, Terribly Persistent on Jan. 31, 2013 @ 5:25 pm

Or does he just hide behind his keyboard taking cheap shots?

I suspect in a formal debate, he'd get taken to the cleaners every time with crackpot shit like this

Posted by Guest on Jan. 31, 2013 @ 5:28 pm

Or does he just hide behind his keyboard taking cheap shots?

I suspect in a formal debate, he'd get taken to the cleaners every time with crackpot shit like this.

Posted by Eddie on Jan. 31, 2013 @ 6:44 pm

Dude, I'm out speaking on panels and debating all the time. It's fun. I don't know how often I get "taken to the cleaners" (since none of my clothes actually need dry cleaning), but I'm hardly hiding.

Posted by tim on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 11:49 am

Occupy takes MUNI, you savage

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 11:45 am

"Occupy takes MUNI, you savage"

LOL.

"A third of protesters in the Occupy Wall Street movement in New York lived in households earning more than $100,000 and more than two- thirds were employed professionals, according to the study from CUNY’s Joseph A. Murphy Institute for Worker Education and Labor Studies.
The study also showed the movement was mostly organized by experienced political operatives and nearly all of those involved — 76 percent — were college educated.
Of those, half had graduate degrees and among those with bachelor’s degrees, and 28 percent had attended elite universities."

Yeah, they take public transit...

Posted by Demented, Yet Terribly, Terribly, Persistent on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 11:57 am

In Manhattan? Of course they do.

Posted by baklazhan on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 3:41 pm

Maybe I'll park my car in the middle of the street, and then not go to the church. I'll challenge the parking ticket under the equal protection clause.

Posted by Greg on Jan. 31, 2013 @ 6:50 pm

But they are overwhelmingly working class. In my neighborhood, they're more working poor than anything else. Seems to me that my fellow Mime Troupe fans could see this a mile away. This is not something on which Tim or anyone else with a clue should be wasting time. Scott Weiner and friends will rid the City of those folks soon enough if we don't get it together.

Posted by Judy on Jan. 31, 2013 @ 6:56 pm

I'd support a carve out for the Western Addition black churches that are about all that is keeping a community connected that had been dispersed throughout the region by redevelopment.

Posted by marcos on Jan. 31, 2013 @ 7:03 pm

same end would be even better: reparations.

I think the church should be taxed like everything else, then those funds can go to secular purposes such as free Sunday parking for everybody.

Posted by lillipublicans on Jan. 31, 2013 @ 7:22 pm

then tax the churches so as to give people more free shit.

Tax black churches so you can give them the money back through reperations?

Pass the bong bro.

Posted by matlock on Jan. 31, 2013 @ 7:59 pm

and not the winning side. So, for example, Germany paid reparations to France after WW1, and to Israel after WW2.

The winning side does not pay reparations, and the US isn't paying reparations to Iraq and Afghanistan (although we have invested in those nations).

So the idea of paying reparations makes no sense here, which is why nobody in Congress ever talks about it.

But hey, this is American, and is somehoe enslaves you, feel free to sue them.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 8:26 am

First, the United States government paid reparations (albeit minimal and long delayed) to Japanese-Americans it interred during World War II.

Second, Germany may have paid Israel money after WWII, but if it did, it wasn't because of the result of a war between them, because Israel didn't exist during World War II.

Third, the excessive reparations the League of Nations ordered Germany to pay after World War I helped cause the economic crises in post-WW1 Germany that helped lead to the rise of Nazism.

Fourth, the United States did not win the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, even if it ousted the previous regimes

Posted by Eddie on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 8:42 am

reparations to foreigners when we win a war, and I include successful invasions as an example of winning a war.

If you or your ancestor was enslaved, sue your slaveowner. Some corporations have been sued because they were involved in the slave trade 150-200 years ago.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 9:03 am

it is the foreigner. At least, since 1812.

Posted by Eddie on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 9:16 am

Reparations are to punish those who start wars and not those who end them.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 9:29 am

I didn't realize that Germany was at war with Israel during WWII.

Posted by Greg on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 8:43 am

jinxed you.

Posted by Eddie on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 8:53 am

I did not realize that Israel had ever existed as a legal entity prior to three years after the end of WWII.

I am not talking about reparations, rather about mitigations to the negative impacts of city policy, of negro removal.

We're talking middle aged and above folks here, the likes of whom do so much better when their lifelong friends and community are there for support.

Posted by marcos on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 8:58 am

We cannot have different laws for different races, nor grant immunity from parking fines based on your skin color.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 9:05 am

you just answered your own question about police (mis)conduct towards people.

Posted by Eddie on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 9:19 am

Maybe that's because I don't hang with criminals

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 9:31 am

Of course, if you don't see it, it doesn't exist.

Posted by Eddie on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 9:44 am
Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 9:50 am

If the same thing happened to white people, the sense of entitlement would make such reparations a sacrament.

Posted by marcos on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 9:20 am

So the racial bias you appear to crave already exists.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 9:32 am

Redevelopment displacement, idiot troll.

Posted by marcos on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 8:13 pm

You are always welcome to attend an historically black church in the Western Addition, white boy.

Posted by marcos on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 9:21 am

Of course, the odds of my car still being there when I return might be reduced.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 9:33 am

Racist troll.

Posted by marcos on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 10:55 am

I'm just calling you out on it.

But the crime rate in the western addition is well above the city's average. I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 11:15 am

Racist troll. Redevelopment, a discretionary government action, was racist. Just as violations of the civil rights laws are racist, torts recovered under those laws are not racist nor is compensation for past racist wrongs.

Posted by marcos on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 11:24 am

Redevelopment was racist in the first instance, mitigating racism is not racism.

Posted by marcos on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 10:11 am

Why aren't you angry that the Irish, Germans and Italians in the Mission got displaced by hispanics?

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 10:37 am

the Irish, Germans and Italians left voluntarily as the outer neighborhoods and suburbs developed.

The victims of redevelopment left against their will. That's why redevelopment is better known as "negro removal" rather than the official "urban renewal."

Posted by Eddie on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 11:21 am

the war crimes against the Jews most definitely did happen (unless you are a holocaust denier - are you?). The reparations were for that.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 9:01 am

But Israel was not a party to the crimes being committed. The kidnapping and execution of Eichmann (which I'd otherwise cheer) in 1960 rested on shaky legal ground because the state which asserted jurisdiction was not present when the crimes were committed.

Posted by marcos on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 9:23 am

it'd be interesting to see how that passes constitutional muster.

Posted by Lucretia Snapples on Jan. 31, 2013 @ 8:01 pm
Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 6:52 am

You've really lost it this time.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2013 @ 6:51 am

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